Living Inside the Acme

In this episode, we go from Limp Bizkit to the Riff Raff of country music, Mortal Kombat 2 the movie, The Boys TV series vs. the comic finale and story arcs, how much better Batman would be as a serious TV show, and that certain level of celebrity status people rarely achieve. And as always: Stay living inside the Acme my friends. 

Transcript

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Can I just develop the bank? Yeah, I can't develop the fence.

SPEAKER_02 0:14

Are we rolling? It's rolling, man. We rollin'. Rolling. That's funny. And you wearing that red hat. You remember when uh that song came out? And we had it like the early, we had it early rolling.

SPEAKER_00 0:26

Limbiscuit. Yeah. Oh God, yes.

SPEAKER_02 0:28

It was like, man, this might be the hardest song ever made.

SPEAKER_00 0:31

Oh, it was the first time. I can remember that Riding Town. For me, it was the first time that level of rock and rap was combined. That much production.

SPEAKER_02 0:44

Yeah, I guess uh that's why they're really kind of responsible for what, new new metal. Is that what it's called?

SPEAKER_00 0:51

That's what it's called. I think it is fire. Like it's I don't know. It's my high school, high school era, it's my childhood, it's my teenage years.

SPEAKER_02 1:01

We've always liked that biscuit.

SPEAKER_00 1:02

I love it. I'm liking this comeback that uh these side quests that uh Fred Durst is currently doing.

SPEAKER_02 1:11

Yeah, because it does seem like he's just out here completing side quests for other people's missions.

SPEAKER_00 1:16

Yeah, he's bringing rage back, aggression in some of this music, and I'm down for it.

SPEAKER_02 1:21

Man, luckily, luckily, I got to see Limp Biscuit. And uh and when they were like in their prime, it wasn't was that the Napster Sucks tour?

SPEAKER_00 1:34

Yeah, where they had the cage.

SPEAKER_02 1:36

Yeah, it was them in Cyprus Cypress Hills.

SPEAKER_00 1:38

That's fire.

SPEAKER_02 1:39

And uh like it was free.

SPEAKER_00 1:41

Tabernacle, right? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:42

It was free. All you had to do was get in line, get tickets before they were gone for each city. And uh I worked at E.B. Brown then so I was probably like uh I don't know, I don't know, it wasn't even 21, I don't think. Like maybe not.

SPEAKER_00 1:59

I think I was when you were in E. B. Brown, I was still in my last year of high school. So I Because that was the year me and Cherie had we had an English class together.

SPEAKER_02 2:10

I might have I might have been 21, who knows? But it was somewhere right around there. Whatever, I mean we could, yeah, we could look up whatever year that tour happened, but yeah, we got off work like at uh I worked night shift, so I got off probably like three o'clock in the morning or something. And uh so it was me, who else was it? It was me. Um I think it was Shane Arp from Rockmart. And for some reason I want to say David Kirby.

SPEAKER_00 2:51

That sounds right.

SPEAKER_02 2:51

I'm pretty sure it was it was Kirby. Like, and uh we got off, we went and ate at Waffle House, and then we were like, all right, we're gonna uh we'll go home, take showers, and then we'll all meet up and go to Atlanta to go stand in line for the tickets. This is all after working, we're not sleeping or nothing, we're going straight to Atlanta like at five o'clock in the morning. Where we're at Waffle House, I see this guy that I went to high school with who in high school was not cool. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like he was in uh special classes, but he wasn't he wasn't special. You know, you know what I mean? He wasn't he wasn't uh he wasn't like a a Netflix special, he wasn't all the way special, he's like a Comedy Central special where he was he's just a little special. I'm with you. He's not like he can be by himself, you know what I mean? Like he's fine to be by himself. He was anyway, in this time of transition but of being not cool in high school and then me seeing him at the Waffle House, it's been a long time. He is like now a gangster. And I know his mom. I worked with his mom at the Pizza Hut when I was like 18. So I know his mom.

SPEAKER_00 4:22

That'd un-gangster somebody pretty quick.

SPEAKER_02 4:24

Yeah, if I know your mama, you can't be you can only be gangster to a certain point.

SPEAKER_00 4:29

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 4:30

Well, I'm gonna tell Penny because that was his mom's name, Penny.

SPEAKER_00 4:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 4:34

Anyway, we took him. Like, it was free. Yeah. It was like, bro, if you're here, like I'll come get you, I'll come, I'll come get you, I'll take you. Like you can ride with us. And and we took him. His name's Jonathan Fowler was his name.

SPEAKER_00 4:48

I know him.

SPEAKER_02 4:49

You know him?

SPEAKER_00 4:49

Well, yeah. Yeah, uncle.

SPEAKER_02 4:53

I didn't know if you remembered him. But you know, he eventually after all this was Boss Cholo. And then he was he got so gangster, he was running from the cops and they pitted him, and that's what killed him. But yeah, Jonathan took boss cholo to Limp Biscuit. Hey. It was crazy because Shane, Shane Arp, he was older than us. So I can't remember if I was 21 because we drank in the morning.

SPEAKER_00 5:24

Mm-hmm. Well, I got it right here. Uh Limp Biscuit did not have a tour officially titled Napster Sucks Tour. Rather, they headlined the controversial Napster-sponsored Back to Basics tour in 2000.

SPEAKER_02 5:36

Napster paid for it. That's why it was free.

SPEAKER_00 5:38

Which was characterized by free admission and for the fans. Direct approach contradicted the sucks sentiments sentiment. That's because what I typed in. But it was 2000.

SPEAKER_02 5:48

2000. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 5:50

26 years ago.

SPEAKER_02 5:51

All right. 2000, I was the oldest I could be.

SPEAKER_00 5:55

I wonder when they come to I think right now is the oldest you could be.

SPEAKER_02 6:01

No, I'm saying I don't at uh that point of the year I was either Oh, I'm with you. I was either 18 or I was either 18 or 19. I'm with you. If it was in the first part of the year, I was 18. If it was September after I was in I was 19. So I could yeah, I couldn't make sense. I couldn't drink legally. So uh yeah, I remember we all got like a couple of 40s once we got in Atlanta and they started selling beer like at 7 a.m. or something, because this was on a weekday. So we literally just went to Atlanta, got slightly drunk, and walked around, walked around because what uh Tabernacle's on what uh Lucky Street, I think.

SPEAKER_00 6:48

Yes, yeah, it is.

SPEAKER_02 6:49

So we just walk around Lucky Street, Spring Street, staying, you know, hanging out at Centennial Park and stuff until tickets go on sale because they you couldn't line up. They had there was like you call for tickets, they call for tickets, then you go.

SPEAKER_00 7:05

Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_02 7:06

There were hundreds of backwards red hats, you know, walking around. Yeah. And I remember vividly everybody just started running. So you knew, oh, it's time to line up. So everybody just starts running. We line up, we all get tickets, we come back home, back to Cedartown, we sleep. Uh I think we were actually off work the next day. So we sleep, you know, till the afternoon, we all meet back up, go to Atlanta, see Limp Biscuit in Cypress Hill. It was awesome. And uh watch Cypress Hill. That was fire. Be real. Like literally, they have like this eight foot tall bong on stage. Be real. Has to climb a ladder to the top of it, fills it up, clears it, and then, you know, DX style, just a volcano.

SPEAKER_00 8:07

It's a massive cloud. Man. And then when we when 2000s, you know.

SPEAKER_02 8:14

Then Limp Biscuit was on, and I'm rocking out, and then, you know, people jump and crowdsurfing, and boom, I get kicked in the back of the head, and I'm not tall, so it's hard for me to get kicked in the back of the head. And I turn around mad because somebody's crowdsurfing, and it was Be Real from Cypress Cypress Hill. Apparently, he started in the back and crowdsurfed to the front. And I just caught caught a hill to the head. I was like, I just jumped up and touched his, you know, Mexican hairy leg.

SPEAKER_00 8:48

Be real. Uh as a tall person, I've been I have my neck crunched at plenty of uh masquerade front row.

SPEAKER_02 8:57

I don't hit my head on many things.

SPEAKER_00 8:59

I've had a not skinny violent J jump on land on my neck before. So that could have been any time. He knows when he was skinny. That one time.

SPEAKER_02 9:15

That one time.

SPEAKER_00 9:16

But anyway, either way, not skinny. He's he's he's a man.

SPEAKER_02 9:19

And he landed on my head. The uh post-ritt box. That's funny. Yeah, that was that was fun. Uh I love Lent Biscuit. I don't care what anyone says. I like that.

SPEAKER_00 9:32

They're still tight. That new song on the MGK's fire.

SPEAKER_02 9:36

Yeah, that song with that chicks.

SPEAKER_00 9:38

I think I like that one a little better. Say come say something. Her name is Lauren.

SPEAKER_02 9:43

And I love how like he's still Fred Durst, but he looks like he you know who um uh Lauren Sanderson.

SPEAKER_00 9:53

I just want to say her name.

SPEAKER_02 9:54

Oh yeah. Give her let people look her. The nine people that's gonna listen to this, y'all look her up. Yeah. Um he looks like uh, I forgot Buddy's name. He was from Memphis as a white dude, but he talked black his something white. Anyway, that's who Fred Durst looks like. He looks like somebody's grand gray beard. He looks like somebody's granddad, but like still super cool.

SPEAKER_00 10:24

Yeah, yeah. He got he got the dad vibes.

SPEAKER_02 10:28

Oh yeah. Hey, this is uh we talked about Lent Biscuit when Justin was here. That's weird. We like Lint Biscuit. 20 podcasts is two times they remission.

SPEAKER_00 10:41

It is Sunday, this upcoming Friday, uh is finally this MGK concert. Going to, me and Sri going to. I bought these tickets. I feel like I bought these tickets last October, like October 4th.

SPEAKER_02 10:56

Yeah, because it was months ago. I sent you the ICP concert thing, and I was like, should we go? And he was like, Yeah, we should go. But I bought I bought MG uh K ticket months ago. Months ago. And this was months ago when I said this.

SPEAKER_00 11:13

So the opening band is called Beauty School Dropout. I looked them up. They they have one song that's it's pretty catchy. Like uh it's a band band.

SPEAKER_02 11:23

A Grease reference is what that is.

SPEAKER_00 11:25

I Cherie called it out as soon as soon as I said it, I was like, that's their name. She was like, ah, Grease. I was like, probably probably, because I'm not that familiar with Greece, but yeah. I mean, I like like So it's gonna be them and then Wiz Khalifa and then MGK at this one show, because you know MGK and Wiz Khalifa just dropped a joint album together.

SPEAKER_02 11:46

You tell me that last week, I believe.

SPEAKER_00 11:47

Yeah, it came out Friday.

SPEAKER_02 11:49

That's tight. Oh, it's a whole the whole album's a joint collab.

SPEAKER_00 11:52

Yeah, so like a nine-song they're calling it a mixtape, but it's just a nine-song.

SPEAKER_02 11:56

So it's like uh M and Royster 5-9, like that style?

SPEAKER_00 12:01

Yeah, it's called Blog Era Boys.

SPEAKER_02 12:03

It can't be as good as that, but no.

SPEAKER_00 12:07

It's gonna be good.

SPEAKER_02 12:09

I wonder if they're gonna limp biscuit where they they do like rock and rap.

SPEAKER_00 12:15

I mean, I've already listened to the whole thing a bunch of times. There's there's a song that's as pop as cliche. There's a song that's like really rap, like really, really uh rap where he's like chopping. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 12:30

That's I mean, that's it.

SPEAKER_00 12:32

There's another one where it's called uh Everything Tatted, and it's more like I'm not I don't really care for the song. It's okay. It gets and just never really changes more like a new age rap song, but it's gonna be so fire life. Oh, yeah. It's just got that energy to it. You can tell you I can't play it because you know we're a podcast and it's the copyrighted material, but it's just got a energy to it. I'll give the EP What's it called? Blog Era Boys. Blog Era Boys. I'll give it a I'll have to I'll I give it a seven and a half out of ten.

SPEAKER_02 13:04

I still listen to Ella's album every day.

SPEAKER_00 13:08

I have an Ella playlist because all three of her albums are so fire and still so new to me that I just have to have them all in a shuffle. So I'm playing everything.

SPEAKER_02 13:18

Especially when I'm at work, I'll just start Dandelion and play it from Froggy Went to Court until he's out. You know?

SPEAKER_00 13:27

Uh-huh. Um this is just opinion. My um, what's her album? What was the one before it? Still Hung Over? Is that the one before Dandelion? Uh I can't remember anybody's album. I kind of personally still it's yeah, it's called Still Hung Over. I kind of think that album's slightly better. Whoops. Player. Uh I kind of like that one slightly better than Dandelion, but that's not to say I don't like Dandelion.

SPEAKER_02 13:58

I wonder how many I don't know. I wonder how many songs Miranda Lambert's like her and Miranda Lambert written together. Yeah. I'm not sure. I would imagine I mean I think that whole Dandelion album, I think Hardy wrote uh Be Her. Be Her. Helped her. Right. He's he's part of it.

SPEAKER_00 14:18

I would imagine it's exactly from what I know from Dalton and the people who go to Nashville, you know what I'm saying? Like it's just a catalog. Yeah, you have writer team, yeah. So much so many songs floating around.

SPEAKER_02 14:31

There's a version of especially like when we'd make we'd make songs of like, hey, I need some I want to feel something right here.

SPEAKER_00 14:38

Like there's a song on Dandeline, uh speaking terms, where she's talking to God. That one and that so there's some other country artists who recorded that three some three, four years ago and just never used it. It's not it's not as good as hers. You can tell that you know they record them and see what it sounds like you know, just to kind of see what it sounds like, and you know, the record labels decide if they're gonna release it or you know if it feels right for right now.

SPEAKER_02 15:05

Yeah, yeah. What song fits this artist? Yeah, oh yeah. There's this lady on TikTok, her name's Brenda Kay, and she she writes songs and sings them. She's terrible. She's not a good singer. She's not a good singer because it's just monotone and there's no feeling behind it. But like she puts production value into her videos. You can tell she makes them, and they're not terrible. The singing's the worst part. But her premises, she sings country.

SPEAKER_01 15:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 15:41

Her premises are fire. Like, there's some of the every every song, every song that she puts out is horrible. But the song is fire.

SPEAKER_00 15:57

The nicest way to say that.

SPEAKER_02 15:59

The song's not horrible. I'll tell you, she makes the song bad. If she could just, and I comment on her videos positive things, another, another concept, another thing. Keep being you, but I never compliment her singing. So she's like I do compliment her songwriting.

SPEAKER_00 16:17

She like a riffraff of country.

SPEAKER_02 16:19

Bruh, she first of all, we're not disparaging Riff Raff. Hold up. Oh, correct. Yeah, first of all, Jody High Roller. I like that mug. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's why I like, you know, them them freestyles are so bad, they become legendary because they're they're munching on some chips.

SPEAKER_01 16:42

You know, you know.

SPEAKER_02 16:47

But no, but honestly, I'd like to get, I wish this lady could connect with an actual someone who writes songs and is a part because her her ideas.

SPEAKER_00 17:01

It's a songwriting out of the charts. Her like her You're saying that Brenda K.

SPEAKER_02 17:07

Brenda K is like uh C-A-Y or maybe C-A-Y-E. But bro, she is she is fire. Her concepts are so good. Like she's got a concept of like uh like shots taking shots, like uh her ex-boyfriend or her ex-man is like a shot, ain't nothing left but the burn. Like, bro, her concepts, yeah. All right, her concepts are fire. Like her ability to sound good and like is not there, but everything else, if this lady could get her a Ella, yeah, you know what I mean, or find her some kind of Miranda Lambert type uh person to help her. I'm with you. I really think that that lady's songs could go somewhere because her concepts are really good.

SPEAKER_00 18:01

And they could. I think she's got you know, 30,000 followers or something like that.

SPEAKER_02 18:06

You know how people will get they'll get popular for cringe. Me and your sister I mean your sister, my sister, your wife. We love Joey Bro because one he could be a smith. Like he could be one of our cousins. He kind of reminds me of Uncle Vic a little bit. Just with the confidence.

SPEAKER_00 18:34

Yeah. That's terrible. Like he's terrible. And I think what it is, it's not even cringe what people gravitate towards. They just like raw authenticity.

SPEAKER_02 18:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:46

Just unpolycloing. If you can just unapologetically be genuinely you, then people are gonna gravitate towards it.

SPEAKER_02 18:53

Oh yeah, especially, especially if you suck, but you're having fun. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:59

You're having fun. You don't care that you suck.

SPEAKER_02 19:01

Yeah, and everybody telling you you suck.

SPEAKER_00 19:04

If you suck, but you are trying to be like, nah no, no, I'm fire, then you're lame. Then you're lame. But if you don't give a care, if you're like, uh uh, I'm just doing me. I don't care if the opinion, however, whatever you're gonna classify it, I don't care about that. Then we're on to something.

SPEAKER_02 19:21

But you watch his videos and there's elements in his personality that is two to three people that we know personally, you know. They they embellish stories like this, or they've done everything you could do under the moon.

SPEAKER_01 19:40

And, you know.

SPEAKER_02 19:42

So I see I see um people I know in him, which oh my god. I that's how I know, you know. Well you are a fraudster, but you're hilarious. I'm gonna watch every video you make, I promise. And I've never I'd never say like I don't say mean things on TikTok.

SPEAKER_00 20:02

No.

SPEAKER_02 20:03

God, I think like I don't want to put out negative videos. Yeah, I'm like, yo, I could I could garner I could garner 10,000 likes with this mean comment, but I don't want to kind of I don't yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 20:17

That ain't the kind of attention you want.

SPEAKER_02 20:19

I was like, I don't want to put that out. No, I've got like one comment on a comment I made on a video got like 25,000 likes. I'm and I'm not I wasn't uh I wasn't stealing anybody's likes because this dude probably eventually had millions of you know likes on the video. But it was just some some dude, some white dude with long hair dancing with his hair blowing in the wind. And I just commented, I'm gonna tell my kids this was boyance. Like god dang, 25,000 people thought that was funny. I was like, I okay, I'm never gonna build a I'm out.

SPEAKER_00 21:06

It's a George Costanza. I'm out, everybody.

SPEAKER_02 21:08

See you in the next Tiki Taka. I'm out trying to get my foot in here and not knock the table.

SPEAKER_00 21:18

Oh yeah. We got a small table set up right now.

SPEAKER_02 21:21

Oh, forgot about my dad joke.

SPEAKER_00 21:23

Oh, there you go.

SPEAKER_02 21:25

What's uh what kind of pants does a ghost hunter wear?

SPEAKER_00 21:31

What kind of pants does a ghost hunter wear? Yeah. Dad joke. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 21:38

Just a pair of normal jeans.

SPEAKER_00 21:43

I like it. Yeah, no.

SPEAKER_02 21:45

It deserves a big laugh, but you can't. Like, yeah, you gotta like slow clap. Like go sit down.

SPEAKER_00 21:53

Yeah, that's a good one. Like, uh okay.

SPEAKER_02 21:55

Like Yeah, you tell you can tell that to nine people and and In one day, but not all at the same time.

SPEAKER_00 22:03

I hate to do another Seinfeld reference, but it reminds me if you remember in the episode where Jerry tells us one joke to his girlfriend trying to make her laugh and she just says, That's funny. And he's so bothered by that.

SPEAKER_02 22:14

Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_00 22:15

So that kind of joke right there. Yeah, it's that's funny.

SPEAKER_02 22:19

First of all, great joke.

SPEAKER_00 22:22

Great joke.

SPEAKER_02 22:23

No fat. There's no fat on that joke. It's just pew.

SPEAKER_00 22:27

But yeah. That is clean. I like a little bit of fat and gristle on my meat.

SPEAKER_02 22:32

I always I always reference Joey uh Tribiani with jokes of that that style. And I go, that's some gentle comedy. Gentle comedy. Gentle comedy. That's a gentle word. I like that. That's what that's some gentle comedy.

SPEAKER_00 22:51

Have you seen Mortal Kombat 2 yet? No, have you? I have not. Good. I was gonna be jealous if you had. I'm gonna wait. I'm gonna hold out for HBO Max.

SPEAKER_02 23:02

I really hate and like it for the the second movie that they didn't just premiere it on HBO. Yeah. I loved the first one because it went straight there. Straight there. And it was like I've seen that movie probably ten times.

SPEAKER_00 23:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:18

Excuse me. Uh probably ten times. And it releasing straight to HBO did not uh affect the how how I thought about it. You know what I mean? Like it probably that the flash.

SPEAKER_00 23:32

Like I was literally just affected their bottom dollar.

SPEAKER_02 23:35

Oh, that's exactly why James Gunn was like, we're not gonna do this anymore. So he's going to the theater. Like I'm I'm putting millions of dollars into it. We're gonna get millions of dollars out of it. Yeah. But uh oh, I want to see it so bad. Like I watched one clip that was Liu Kang and Kung Lao fighting. Uh-huh. And that's the only thing like only thing other than the trailer that I've seen about it.

SPEAKER_00 24:05

Yeah. Yeah, I haven't watched it. I don't like watching movie clips. Yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 24:11

I want to be surprised or but I'm dead. I don't it's hard for them to do wrong to because the old the other the 90s movies, yeah, they were terrible.

SPEAKER_01 24:23

Terrible. Love them. Still good.

SPEAKER_02 24:25

I love them. I've I've watched them within the last I've watched the original Mortal Kombat within the last couple of years.

SPEAKER_00 24:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:32

And I rewatched it.

SPEAKER_00 24:34

Yeah. I read one review about Mortal Kombat 2. It was pretty much exactly what I figured it would be. I don't remember which uh internet medium worded it like this. Because they put it, it was like an eight, you know, they they said it was perfectly what it should be. It said the only people that are gonna have a problem with it is people that know the 90s game lore to a T that can just nitpick it. Oh, and if you don't and unfortunately, that's I know it to that. And because I was like when I watched the trailer, I'm like, I've never seen anything. I might have already said this. What if, what if uh sorry I've never seen it look so perfect, but not at the same time. It's like all of the costumes, all of the settings, all of the backgrounds, the fighting, everything going on is exactly what it should be. Yeah. All of that casted people are wrong that are wearing the perfect costumes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For me, because it just don't match the game. I can um Which is that's a really anal way to look at it.

SPEAKER_02 25:39

No, well, that's how we're gonna look at it. Also, let's go back to everybody that's read the book of any movie that's ever been made from a book, they're doing this. Okay. The book was way better than the movie. All right.

SPEAKER_00 25:51

Well, the video game's way better than the movie. Because let me go, just let me go back to Mortal Kombat 1. HBO Mortal Kombat 1.

SPEAKER_02 26:00

Before you start, let me say, I do think that Liu Kang, his character is like, is fine. He looks apart. I think Kano is couldn't get more perfect. Uh Sonya Blade, I think she's good. Like I think she's a good Sonya Blade. She's no she's no Veronica Vun, but because you know, uh and I hate Jax. I don't like I don't like eggs from True Blood. Okay that's Jax. I don't like eggs as Jax because he don't he don't convince me that he's like a tough guy. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like he's eggs from True Blood. I can't get past it. And that's my that's my own part. Sorry, go ahead.

SPEAKER_00 26:58

All right. Yeah, some of the cat the casting is okay. What I don't like is the story choices uh from the first movie. What really just rubbed me wrong from the very beginning of the movie is in the video games, Sub Zero is the good guy. His clan is the good guy. Scorpion are the bad guys.

SPEAKER_02 27:19

He's the bad guy. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:20

Scorpion murders uh somebody, something on the Lynn Plate. On Sub Zero's side, Sub-Zero kills Scorpion. That's why Scorpion comes back from hell. That's why he's a demon. And they just they flipped him.

SPEAKER_02 27:38

Flip the first part of that story.

SPEAKER_00 27:40

So as soon as the movie started, I'm like, already from the jump, the whole movie, I'm going, well, that's already wrong because Sub-Zero's a bad guy. This doesn't make sense.

SPEAKER_02 27:49

What's crazy is even though that's wrong, like that's the best shot part of the whole movie. It is. It's the best shot. It looks the best. It looks so, yeah, it looks so good. It looks like Shogun like looks. And I was like, oh man, this looks great. But yeah, the Lin Kwe is like the redemption clan. And I forgot Scorpion's clan's name, but I guess I guess we don't remember the lore that great.

SPEAKER_00 28:20

Well it's not said a lot. The Lin Kwe.

SPEAKER_02 28:23

But that's the Lin Kwei, that's the Scorpions, right?

SPEAKER_00 28:27

The cyborgs. Yeah. They're Lin Kwe. That's that's the future.

SPEAKER_02 28:34

Um yeah, I'm I'm really real interested to see what elements they do take. And just it would be it might even it would take you out of the movie, but that's what it's supposed to do. And I just thought of this a while ago when you were talking. Okay. You were saying, you know, talking about some of the characters don't fit. What if just they're fighting, just a a fight scene in a in a setting in a stage that, you know, we're familiar with, say like uh the acid pet. I don't even know if that's in the movie, but say the acid pet. Movies go on, but and somebody just boom uppercuts the other guy, and then you you literally just out of the corner, Ed Boone just. That's the kind of stuff. Yeah, how fire would that be?

SPEAKER_00 29:27

That would be fire. I would have considered it. I would expect not Mortal Kombat to do that, but the new Street Fighter movie to maybe do stuff like that. Because I love the tone of the new Street Fighter movie. If you've seen the latest trailer, oh I don't guess I've seen the latest one. It just it it's so aware.

SPEAKER_02 29:47

Oh no, it's a cartoon.

SPEAKER_00 29:48

Yeah, it's aware of itself. Yeah. And it's it's like comedy driven and over the top, but just like the game, the game is goofy.

SPEAKER_02 29:57

I like to call that uh living inside acme. I like that's my own term, like where you're you're aware of the silliness uh of this. It doesn't matter if it's live action cartoon or whatever. Like you're inside the acne.

SPEAKER_00 30:14

Can you just accept it?

SPEAKER_02 30:15

Yeah, you can you can blow up, there's a tunnel that's painted on you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 30:19

Like you live inside. I like that phrasing. And it's kind of kayfabe. Yeah. But it's like a little bit a cartoon version.

SPEAKER_02 30:29

Yeah, if like if it makes sense if you get it, and if you if you don't get it, it's like you're an idiot. What does that mean? Live inside the acme.

SPEAKER_01 30:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 30:38

So you just you can blow this up at any time. Speaking of acme, I want to that will be the title of this podcast. Live inside the acme.

SPEAKER_00 30:51

Yeah. You heard it here for us.

SPEAKER_02 30:55

You just turned into uh you just turned an Andrew Santino to me.

SPEAKER_00 30:59

I sure did. You got the reference.

SPEAKER_02 31:05

Oh I would I would love to be as funny as Bobby Lee. I want to see that uh Coyote versus Acme movie.

SPEAKER_00 31:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:15

I want to see that. That looks good. Will Forte said that was shelved for like I remember a couple of years ago watching an interview with him saying they shot it, WB shelved it, and he don't know if it would ever be shown. I think I remember that.

SPEAKER_00 31:31

And he was like an advocate. They filmed it as a tax write-off. Yeah. Like they had it's like, well, we gotta spend some money, so we might as well make this one.

SPEAKER_02 31:38

Yeah. That's that's crazy. Yeah, it's preposterous to just shelf it. When but once I saw the trailer, I was like, because seeing that interview, I was like, oh, this is actually happening. It made it mean more to me because I knew it was supposedly never coming out. But the trailer looks great.

SPEAKER_00 31:59

Yeah. I watched it.

SPEAKER_02 32:00

John Cena is a good bad guy.

SPEAKER_00 32:03

Like, I like him not in wrestling, he's not.

SPEAKER_02 32:08

I mean in the movies. That's that's what I was referring to.

SPEAKER_00 32:12

Uh but you said bad guy, you didn't say heel.

unknown 32:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 32:15

Yeah, that would have been wrestling for sure. Have you seen, speaking of uh somebody you can't see, have you seen that him, John Cena and Eric Andre have a new movie coming out this summer on Netflix called Um Little Brother. John Cena and Eric Andre.

SPEAKER_00 32:36

Because I don't know Eric Andre by name.

SPEAKER_02 32:37

Eric Andre, you ain't got the I know the face.

SPEAKER_00 32:40

I know I know his face, but the face and the name ain't connected.

SPEAKER_02 32:43

You know, he's like a super prankster, wild man, Eric Andre. Like he'll get naked. He's like a he's like the mixed Johnny Knoxville. You know, he had the Eric Andre show where His own ridiculousness. Yeah uh yeah, he was on there as a guest one time. But I think I know he would always at the end of Eric Andre show, he would destroy his whole set.

SPEAKER_00 33:11

I know exactly who you're talking about.

SPEAKER_02 33:13

So apparently, I just saw the trailer today. Uh John Cena's and him are estranged stepbrothers or something. It didn't really make it too clear, but John Cena's super successful, and then something happens, Eric Andres gets hurt, he's in an accident. I guess John Cena's the only contact, and they link back up. And John Cena's wife like takes pity on Eric Andre. You can stay with us, and then hilarity ensues. Okay. You know exactly what the movie is. Yeah. Because they've made a hundred thousand of this movie, but it looks funny. Yeah. Like I would imagine there's gonna be a couple of ball bags.

SPEAKER_00 34:06

I'm down with it, so it should be, you know, a free fun watch on Amazon like Ricky Stanicki was.

SPEAKER_02 34:11

Oh yeah, I like Ricky Stinicki. I love I love Andrew Santino. Like I think he's so funny. Like I think he's super clever, he's smart, and he was on um, you just don't remember it. He was on uh Punked. He was like one of the cast members that would help punk people.

SPEAKER_00 34:35

But uh around the Dax era?

SPEAKER_02 34:38

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Because, you know, Dave was fired.

SPEAKER_00 34:45

Yeah. So he have anything to do with uh the one guy, and this is really uh specific how I'm I only can get the reference. He's in Parks and Rick. Do you are you familiar with Parks and Rick? Yeah. He's the douche. The radio guy. Oh that's I can see his face, but I'm and I know uh I can't think of his name.

SPEAKER_02 35:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 35:10

Show me and I'll like do they have I'm wondering if why am I connecting them together in my brain? I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 35:20

I don't know, but uh Zach Efron, speaking of Ricky Stanicki, Zach Efron is a good, is like a great half of a buddy film.

SPEAKER_00 35:33

Zach Efron? Is that what you just said?

SPEAKER_02 35:36

Yeah, Zach Efron, because we were talking about Ricky Stanicki.

SPEAKER_00 35:40

I think Zach. Oh, he's the good half in a buddy fence. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 35:44

He's like a perfect, but because he can play like the handsome good guy, or he can play the the mess up. I like Zach Efron.

SPEAKER_00 35:53

Yeah, I do too.

SPEAKER_02 35:55

Have you ever watched uh the one where he goes around getting drunk?

SPEAKER_00 36:00

I was going to a whole nother place. That's going to the wrestling movie. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 36:06

Oh, um, The Claw.

SPEAKER_00 36:07

The Claw. Have you watched that?

SPEAKER_02 36:08

The Iron Claw? The Iron Claw? The Iron Claw. No, because I know the story of them and I don't want my heart tore out. Bro, it's hard for you. You're gonna cry. I can't.

SPEAKER_00 36:18

You can you will cry at the end of it because you have a soul. Yeah, first of all. But it's so good.

SPEAKER_02 36:25

I cry at more things by uh than I would want to admit to.

SPEAKER_00 36:32

There's nothing wrong with that.

SPEAKER_02 36:34

Like anything with like a father and a son, you know what I mean, like, or a soldier video, soldier returning home. Oh, yeah. If you're if you went somewhere and your dog hadn't seen you in two years and then he smells you and realizes that's you, like, bruh, yeah, my shirt's wet. Yep.

SPEAKER_00 36:55

Like, I'm chopping onions.

SPEAKER_02 36:56

Like, bruh, it's it's 7 30 in the morning.

SPEAKER_00 36:59

Like Yeah, I just opened this app. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 37:02

All I do on this app is cry and learn things. Cry, cry, get mad, and laugh and learn. Cry.

SPEAKER_00 37:11

Cry, love, laugh and learn. I don't know. Uh the actor I was talking about was Nick Kroll.

SPEAKER_02 37:15

Oh, Nick Kroll. Awesome.

SPEAKER_00 37:17

Why am I connecting him and the other guy? Do they do anything together? Andrew Santina?

SPEAKER_02 37:22

Maybe Santina was on um not Andrew. Oh, who?

SPEAKER_00 37:27

The one the other guy we was talking about.

SPEAKER_02 37:29

Oh, uh Zach Efron?

SPEAKER_00 37:31

With the crazy hair. What? I don't know. No, wait, I want with the crazy hair. The guy, the show that you said you like. Oh, Eric Andre. Eric, yes. Oh, he probably Nick ever do anything together? Like, why? They're together in my brain for some reason.

SPEAKER_02 37:47

Well, because they both do voice acting. You know, Nick Kroll's like a great voice actor. He does um Big Mouth.

SPEAKER_00 37:53

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 37:54

And so Eric Andre, I would almost guarantee is on Big Mouth.

SPEAKER_00 37:58

Okay. That makes sense. And I just saw a clip.

SPEAKER_02 38:07

Wait, what's that? There's a new show on Netflix. Maybe it's called like Maiden Season or something. It's an animated show. Nick Kroll's in it. Maybe Eric Andre's in it. They were doing uh a video where all of them were doing a the voiceover together in the in the booth. Like I can't really remember. So I might have seen something like that.

SPEAKER_00 38:30

Probably. See all kinds of things when I'm doom scrolling.

SPEAKER_02 38:34

I don't Eric Andre's not somebody I will I will seek out, but he is funny. Like he is funny in that 2010. He's still in that level, that area of comedy is what he does. You want to see a great representation of him, uh watch Bad Trip. He's got a movie called Bad Trip. And it's a combin it's a it's a combination, and this is gonna sound weird, but it works. It's a combination of movie, but uh pranks in the movie.

SPEAKER_00 39:18

Real pranks.

SPEAKER_02 39:20

Real pranks in the movie where you can you can visually tell, you know, like this is storyline scripted part of the movie, and then oh snap, why is he naked right now at the car wash? What happened? Yeah, why Bad Trip's funny actually. Okay. It's got uh Lil Rail, Lil'Rail Howry in him. It's pretty funny.

SPEAKER_00 39:46

Is it upstreaming anywhere?

SPEAKER_02 39:48

Um I it's on Netflix, I'm pretty positive.

SPEAKER_00 39:51

Add it to the queue.

SPEAKER_02 39:52

Yeah, Bad Trip. That's pretty funny. I like that uh blending of I guess what is it, reality TV and and movies. Yeah. Because that's never been done really.

SPEAKER_00 40:07

Yeah, I might have to see it to really.

SPEAKER_02 40:10

I just want to say it's hard, it's hard to grip, but it works. Like but you can s you can tell, like, this is a movie, and then the people that's like getting the pranks pulled on them, they're not characters in the movie, of course not. They're just innocent bystanders.

SPEAKER_00 40:32

Is it Borat in a way? Yes, Borat-ish?

SPEAKER_02 40:36

Why didn't I think of that? That's the one. That's the first one. Okay. Eric Andre is no innovator. That was Sasha Barron Cohen, yes.

SPEAKER_01 40:46

Okay, all right.

SPEAKER_02 40:47

But you can in Borat, it still seemed like all in the scope of a movie.

SPEAKER_00 40:58

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 40:59

This you can definitely, it's not like a lack of quality or anything. It's just the stark difference between the scripted part of the movie and the and the prank part of the movie.

SPEAKER_00 41:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 41:13

It doesn't, it's not really, it's not seamless like Borat is.

SPEAKER_00 41:17

Okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 41:18

Borat just walks in to the hotel you true chocolate face, no makeup, and everybody's looking around, you know. It's not as it seems like it's cut. It's cut to be viewed that way.

SPEAKER_00 41:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 41:38

I'm doing a terrible terrible explanation.

SPEAKER_00 41:44

You're making me want to watch it more because it's hard to picture.

SPEAKER_02 41:47

Oh yeah, it's silly. Like you want to watch something silly, that's what it is.

SPEAKER_00 41:52

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 41:52

Like there's there's more moments of heartfelt movie moment, but for the most part it's it's uh jackass half the movie.

SPEAKER_00 42:03

Yeah, I'm with you.

SPEAKER_02 42:05

And I want to see the the new jackass movie.

SPEAKER_00 42:08

I ain't seen like the past three, but I just just cause I haven't sat down and watched them yet, uh what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_02 42:13

You're not missing anything like particular. But the new one, bam, supposed to be back in. Yeah. I think they're gonna use they might show, I think I heard they're gonna show f footage, unseen footage of stuff they didn't use for him and previous things that they didn't let him do, you know.

SPEAKER_00 42:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 42:37

But no, the the last couple the last one was pretty good. The one or two before that, two of them, had too much how much too much doo-doo and pee-pee.

SPEAKER_00 42:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 42:52

And and I don't mean urine, I mean goober.

SPEAKER_00 42:55

I know how them boys roll. Yeah, wild boys.

SPEAKER_02 42:59

A lot of scat and a lot of goober.

unknown 43:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 43:04

I could do without. I don't think I'm not gonna watch that.

SPEAKER_02 43:06

Yeah, I don't want to watch that.

SPEAKER_00 43:07

Right? That ain't for me. It wasn't high on the queue anyway. I probably wasn't gonna get to it. I got so many things. I suck at watching things. I've watched uh play games though.

SPEAKER_02 43:20

The video gamer. Saying all the the season the uh show finale. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 43:30

I know how it ended because I know I wasn't gonna go back on the show.

SPEAKER_02 43:33

That's not how it's that's not how it's supposed to end. That's not how the the comic ends.

SPEAKER_00 43:37

I know how the comic ends, and I know that's what I was expecting. You know, I seen once I got my TikTok algorithm on the boys, it started filling me in on the last scenes and the comic difference to the show and what it was supposed to be, blah, blah, blah. And I was like, I mean, the show just lost me a couple seasons ago.

SPEAKER_02 43:56

I think I think they kind of changed it and made it more. Lackadaisical to invoke um excitement for Vault Rising.

SPEAKER_00 44:08

Yeah. You know what I mean? Because the new prequel coming out.

SPEAKER_02 44:11

That's all it did for me. It was like I was like, I know how this was supposed to end. And this wasn't even. Y'all skipped the whole part. Y'all skipped the best part of everything everybody wanted to see and went straight to the end.

SPEAKER_00 44:26

And are you referring to what people say in Scorched Earth? Like the act un their an actual Scorched Earth scenario when there wasn't one. Well, see, what I think happened is Spoiler alert for anybody who watches the boys. I don't anymore.

SPEAKER_02 44:44

I mean, I won't say anything if you I don't care. And I don't care if people And go.

SPEAKER_00 44:52

They've had their warning.

SPEAKER_02 44:54

Yeah. I don't care if you get spoiled. The whole thing is I think I think they plan to stop it originally last year. I think season I think season four, I think they probably were gonna try to like wrap it up and for I don't know if it was money or what or they need another season, they would get bought right. I I have no idea.

SPEAKER_00 45:25

Yeah, I don't see what you're saying.

SPEAKER_02 45:28

Every everything that was built in up to season four in season four got negated. Like uh Ryan, Homelander's son, he was supposed to be a way bigger part of like taking Homelander down than well, I mean he really kind of played his role, but they built up the storyline with him for uh two seasons, and then after season four, they just had to kind of like put him to the side because they went a whole nother route. Uh because originally the way the show ends is that um Homelander becomes like unstoppable. You know, he finally says, I'm I'm God, basically, and I'm gonna do what I want to do. Well in the in the comic the mil military action's taken against Homelander, like the military goes against him, and he does everything but everything short of destroying anything they can throw at him. Like he's unstoppable. And then um with the help of Ryan, they uh they stop him, but the whole thing is Black Noir, Black Noir is the one that ultimately kills Homelander in the comics. He was a Homelander clone because he was he was revealed to be a clone uh at the very end. Uh-huh. So that Homelanders never had anyone uh on the same level of strength and to fight him. So what happens is uh I'm pretty sure um Homelander. I'm pretty sure Homelander ends up ripping Black Noir apart. Whoa, just like rips him in half. Uh after the fact that he finds out Black Noir's been doubling him and he's the one that's Black Noir is really the one that's responsible for raping Becca and all the things that Homelander thought he had been brainwashed into believing he had done. Uh so after finding all that out, he finds the strength and rips uh Black Noir apart. And then Kamiko, she she hits everybody with the the blast that that Soldier Boy has that will take away your powers and butcher kills Homelander basically in the same way that he did when the show ended. But they just skipped over all the cool military scorched earth part for this Sister Sage plan that ended up she had the same fate as everyone else, where her her power was taken away by Kamiko's blast as well. Like it's almost the whole last couple of seasons was I I take two steps forward and then this third step cancels out this first step. And nothing nothing that has been set up actually pays off in in the in the regard of you should have been here. Like they were only progressing the story in a way for TV that would get to the end. It had no payoff, nobody's nobody's storylines like paid off in the show as they did in the comic.

SPEAKER_00 49:56

Things I've read when people say the creators didn't have the budget for all the military scenes and that level of I mean that would make sense.

SPEAKER_02 50:06

That would make sense.

SPEAKER_00 50:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 50:10

But why give uh a lazier product?

SPEAKER_00 50:20

Money? It can only be money.

SPEAKER_02 50:22

And it almost makes sense like what you said if there was gonna but no, why opt why opt for a fifth season when all that fifth season money could have went into ending the fourth season the right way the right way.

SPEAKER_00 50:39

Because there's more money in an extra season.

SPEAKER_02 50:42

There's no payoff for anybody. Like they did like two in-credit scenes, I think, and I didn't even watch them. I didn't even watch the in-credit scenes to find out where everybody went. Yeah, I don't I don't even know.

SPEAKER_00 50:58

Yeah. And I read that the actual ending they got to in the show totally, which they canceled the V show. What's it called?

SPEAKER_02 51:09

Oh, Gen V?

SPEAKER_00 51:10

Yeah, Gen V.

SPEAKER_02 51:11

Gen V was good.

SPEAKER_00 51:12

They canceled that, but they uh I was reading that some fans said Homelander's ending totally negates this character that they were building up that could have been Oh, yeah, Marie. Yeah, that could have been Homelander's equal. So that totally makes it all pointless.

SPEAKER_02 51:27

She, like in the comics, the Starlight, Hugh, they all call on the Gen V kids to come fight Homelander, help fight Homelander at the end after he destroys the military, they're at the White House, uh, and they all uh are fighting Homelander. The Gen V kids are there. That's the whole reason for Gen V to even happen so they could be there when Homelander dies.

SPEAKER_00 52:00

And it didn't even happen. They weren't in the finale.

SPEAKER_02 52:03

And in the show, like the first season of Gen V, there was this kid who was like Homelander, but like he was he was better.

SPEAKER_01 52:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 52:13

And uh, but he dies like in the first season. And then uh one of the one of the main characters in Gen V who is like gonna advance the story, he dies in real life. Like he died in real life, so they had they couldn't use him anymore. And so they just kind of switched focus to Marie, who has the blood, the blood power where she can use your blood and your body against you. Just like um, you know, the the girl, I forgot her name, she was the vice president, she had like explode your head.

SPEAKER_00 52:53

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 52:54

Marie has that same kind of power where she can take all the blood from your body and pull it out of you, use it against you.

SPEAKER_00 53:01

That's that's that's wicked.

SPEAKER_02 53:04

Yeah. So she like she's a big part in stopping Homelander in the comics in the end. Everybody banded together, but they just like wrote all of that off because they've already they've already filmed the first season of Vot Rising. So I wonder if like all that going on really killed the budget for the Scorched Earth VFX shot. Like because that that whole thing would have made the show.

SPEAKER_01 53:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 53:37

Because I didn't I didn't care how it ended, and I watched it from Inception. I loved it.

SPEAKER_00 53:45

Yeah. I fell off of the show, but from how you're describing it, it feels like another Game of Thrones situation. Yes, where I'm just saying where the show is so good and that last season is so bad that it's hard for me to go back and watch it. It's like I it's all for nothing.

SPEAKER_02 54:01

And and they Game of Thrones, they threw it together quickly to get to the thing they thought we wanted. Like it wasn't it wasn't fleshed out enough. This one just disregarded the the source material.

SPEAKER_00 54:23

Oh yeah, okay. And which is okay if you take that gamble and you do it, yeah, and you pay it off. Yeah. If you improve upon it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 54:36

I mean so many things happen. Even Kribke, the same dude who did Heroes.

SPEAKER_00 54:43

Kribke? I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 54:47

The guy that does the boys.

SPEAKER_00 54:51

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 54:52

I wonder if I I don't I can't remember.

SPEAKER_00 54:55

It's sounding like I was it was the writing you was making me think of heroes just the way how they had to do it.

SPEAKER_02 55:03

That was so awesome, and then they just messed it up by trying to go for it.

SPEAKER_00 55:06

Well, you remember what Heroes did. They had to live through the uh the famous Hollywood writer strike.

SPEAKER_02 55:12

Yeah. But uh that's what killed.

SPEAKER_00 55:18

That's when the writing made no sense. Like I think Heroes.

SPEAKER_02 55:22

That's when the circus, the circus part happened, right? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 55:26

Heroes and My Name is Earl were two of the shows that I was heavily into when the writer strike happened, and they got those. Earl got the it had a weird He went to jail, and then the whole season is just a little bit.

SPEAKER_02 55:39

I was gonna say, is that the reason why he just ended up it was doing it?

SPEAKER_00 55:45

He goes to jail during that that was the the replacement writers.

SPEAKER_02 55:50

I forget it's been so long since I watched Earl.

SPEAKER_00 55:52

Well, it ended on a cliffhanger, it got canceled, it didn't end. They ended with trying to find out is it maybe who Darnell's red father is? I don't know. There's a cliffhanger, and we never got the answer to it.

SPEAKER_02 56:08

Oh man, that sucks.

SPEAKER_00 56:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 56:11

Because I loved Heroes. Heroes are like the first two seasons of Heroes was some of the best TV.

SPEAKER_00 56:17

Save the cheerleader, save the world. I watched it. I remember when Nico was around 12, maybe 14. I was like, let's watch Heroes. I know you've never seen it. Let's I promise, just stick with it. Let's go. Bruh.

SPEAKER_02 56:31

I want to walk I want to get the kids to watch it, but I know there's no payoff.

SPEAKER_00 56:38

It's still good, I'll tell you. Like, and me and Nico sat down and watched it, and about the circus, we just stopped. We quit caring. And that was it. So it was exactly what Sheldon said on Big Bang Theory. With with heroes, they lowered the quality gradually uh episode by episode.

SPEAKER_02 56:58

We just stopped watching it. Yeah, that makes so much sense. Such a good show.

SPEAKER_00 57:02

They wrote themselves into a corner with Siler's character. No, they they once they eliminated Peter's powers, the show was over. Now Siler has no balance.

SPEAKER_02 57:16

Yeah, you need a you need a a good force and an evil force.

SPEAKER_00 57:20

That's it. You have to have balance in the dynamic of the show.

SPEAKER_02 57:23

Yeah, because if it there's no duality when it gets every like they just created Thrag first.

SPEAKER_00 57:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 57:32

Do you ever watch Invincible or anything? Nope. You should watch Invincible.

SPEAKER_00 57:39

I've heard it's good. I've heard it's fire.

SPEAKER_02 57:42

Thrag is Thrag is all of us. If we were omnipotent, like, bro, nobody's gonna tell me nothing.

SPEAKER_00 57:53

He's like a Is he like Project Manhattan level powers?

SPEAKER_02 57:58

No, no.

SPEAKER_00 57:59

Is it Dr. Manhattan? What am I thinking?

SPEAKER_02 58:00

Yeah, yeah. No, no, he's not um omnipotent in that sense. Okay. Who's like uh I meant like he's like um Dark Phoenix. He's he's like if Superman and Chuck Norris had a baby.

SPEAKER_00 58:17

Yawza. Which one's the top?

SPEAKER_02 58:19

Yeah. For real. Which one's the top? Is Thrag.

unknown 58:24

Thrag.

SPEAKER_00 58:26

Bray goes hard. He's the one with the stash, right?

SPEAKER_02 58:28

Yeah. Uh no, that's Omniman.

SPEAKER_00 58:30

Omni Man. I knew that because he's in Mortal Kombat 1, the video game.

SPEAKER_02 58:34

Thrag. Thrag makes Omni Man look like uh Omniboy.

SPEAKER_00 58:43

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 58:44

Uh Invincible is to Omni Man as Omni Man is to Thrag. Like Okay. Thrag is And I'll be all.

SPEAKER_00 58:57

Okay. Like across all universes or like we're gonna get really nerdy? Like, is there anybody really beating Zack Snyder's Superman with the black suit?

SPEAKER_02 59:11

I mean Thrag is Superman that kills every time.

SPEAKER_01 59:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 59:21

Thrag doesn't spare. Yeah. There's n there's no sparing anyone. You're he is literally righteous kills or just No. The the definity of superiority. Like you're all ants.

SPEAKER_00 59:39

So Superman's powers gave to Ron Swanson.

SPEAKER_02 59:46

Um, yes. That level of dry straightforwardness, like uh Ron Swanson's gonna do what Ron Swanson does.

SPEAKER_00 59:58

This is just the note that says I can do what I want.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:03

I have a permit. Yeah. It has been okay. Yeah, Thragison, Thragsfire. But you know, you get those those super level people, the heroes, or I they can only work as villains.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:20

Yeah. Like it. I'm sure there's comic spin-offs of some evil Superman versions that are just godlike powers. Oh, yeah, that's like the um uh I don't know all the lore like that, but I'm sure there's some Ultimate Supreme.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:37

What's the one uh X-World or whatever where um the Nazis win World War II, black people are still enslaved, like locked up, and Superman is like uh ripped red sun, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:56

Red Sun. Yeah. That ain't that the was that the desert dream sequence of the Zack Snyder of the Uncut?

SPEAKER_02 1:01:07

No, but it is remnant of that.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:11

Or was they leaning towards Injustice Superman?

SPEAKER_02 1:01:14

Yeah, that's what that I think that's what that was, the Injustice Superman.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:17

I think Injustice would be.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:19

I don't want them to make like a red the red sun when I ah crap, it's hard to remember. Because I don't know if you watched uh season two of Peacemaker.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:30

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:31

All right, you know at the end, the the alternative dimension they was in, that was. That was that word. That's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm remembering.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:39

I knew I had saw it and something, all the all them details would sound familiar. What I think what I would like DC to do, they won't because there's not enough money in it. Since Marvel has Cinematic Universe on lock, and DC has HBO Max just right there, I think DC and like Superman, all of this stuff would work better and you could tell a better story as HBO Max ser original series. Yeah. Like to the level of Penguin or to the level of the movies themselves, but give me, you know, give me six episodes seasons, because that's gonna be a six hour movie rather than a two and a half, three hour movie where you're cutting stuff to make it fit, or you can give me, you know, you can give me a lot more, but I understand that's more footage, that's more screen times, more money, more when once they figure out the because they did kind of have that um business plan. Yeah, with yeah, with Peacemaker and all that stuff, but I think everything should be Yeah, and then they re That should be how they tell the DC comic stories.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:53

I think I think that works great because I love shows f you can flesh it out more.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:59

I'm basing it on the Aeroverse, just give us a mature, rated R Aeroverse.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:05

Yeah, because you can get like even if it was you know, like you said, six episodes. Yeah. All right, you got your art, you got your story arc, you already know where you're going, you got your villains and stuff laid out, and then you can give us a you can give us uh a Justice League per season.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:31

And we could eventually get to the Justice League. Eventually, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:35

You're gonna we got uh each it could be done like the Aeroverse where uh episode might have feature one or two That's what I like Yeah villains and then you're building up to like a flashpoint storyline. Yes, exactly.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:54

Yeah, Arrowverse had it on lock. But check this, okay. So let's go deeper with this. The best, what I think HBO series. It would be the it would be like Game of Thrones level big because they need to put that much budget and money and focus and scope into it. Batman. But and I'm talking about a full Batman TV show, hour per episode, but I'm talking like 20, 25 episodes a season, the OG stuff, because how fire would it be for Batman because he has such a big catalog of villains, so he's the perfect person to have a called a pantheon. Yeah, he has the perfect overarching season villain in your your riddlers, jokers, yeah, penguins, where episodically you can it can just be like a crime show. You can have those episodic bookend, book open, book closed crime.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:57

Keep going. I got it, I got it. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00 1:04:59

I got an idea what of episode season one, episode 11. The little problem is Manbat. Well, he he handles that, but Manbat happened because of Riddler things that he's got planted throughout this entire season that it's also involving these minor villains.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:20

You got your yeah, your catalyst.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:22

So maybe maybe Riddler season one. You know, and then pick somebody else for season two because everybody's gonna be fiending for that joker. Oh, yeah. Where's the joker? Where's the joker? Where's the joker?

SPEAKER_02 1:05:33

You bring him in season through people like Hug, Hush.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:37

Oh, you got so many.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:38

Mr. Negative, like oh wait, you can bring him in that's Spider-Man, never mind.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:42

Yeah, uh, I was about to say Trickster, even though that's DC. Yeah, that I mean it still works, I guess.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:48

He's still alive, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:51

Yeah, and Trickster could be a joker doppelganger where you never say his name, so the fan talk is he's acting like The Joker, but we don't want this guy casted as a Joker. He ain't acting good enough. He ain't doing a good enough job because he's a trickster.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:06

Everybody that knows Batman animated Batman knows that Joker and Trickster and uh Flash played by the same. Exactly, exactly. One does the voice, one does the live action.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:25

Yep. I could work. So a Batman uh mature, you know, don't do it for kids. Do it for do it for do it for us. Do it for the Game of Thrones demographic. Bruh. The same people who watch Penguin, you know what I'm saying? Like, do that.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:41

Take Robert Pattinson's flush it out. No, no, no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:45

No, no, no. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:46

Not Pattinson.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:48

A whole new Batman. We need a TV Batman. Hear me. Brand new. Hear me out. New universe. Hear me out.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:52

Alright. We know that Batman, Brave, and the Bold, James Gunn's making Batman, Brave, and the Bold. Yes. Alright.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:02

And little tidbit, he said it will be gray and blue. Batman.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:07

That's what Batman and Brave and the Bold is. It by besides Batman, the animated series, Batman, Brave and the Bold by far is the best animated Batman. Okay. There is. Like, it's so good. It's so good. Me and Jet watched it when he was a kid. Like, it was new then. Um, and from everything that I've heard, Jensen Accles is gonna be Batman and said Brave and the Bold. What if they did like the animated series, but instead of a Brave and the Bold movie, they Brave and the Bold live action the show. Like what you were just talking about.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:57

Because that gray and blue Batman could also be a little bit lighter. Like the Superman movie is. So it don't have to have that dark tone the entire show. It's not the Gotham show from Fox. It's not good, we're not remaking Gotham. Yeah, we're not doing Dark Knight. No, no, no. This is just Batman. Batman. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Exactly. By the copyright humor. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm saying by the even by the license to the Adam West theme and kind of not reboot, but you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 1:08:29

Oh, yeah. Because they got so many characters they could do. Like so many villains. Um I think that would be like what you what you said, and I was thinking, so I wonder if that will work for Brave and the Bull because that's the next Batman project. Because after Matt Reeves' Batman 2, I think I think it's gonna be done. Like uh Jensen Ackles will be probably the new Batman. And I don't know But I'm gonna see you I'm okay with having different iterations of Batman.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:12

Because DC has a multiverse, it all makes sense.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:14

Like I'm okay with like Ackles being brave in the world.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:19

Like I I know he'd be a good Batman.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:23

I'm okay with Pattinson being the dark night.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:26

Like going back to Jensen, he would be a good Batman. For some reason, every time I think about him, he's Red Hood to me. Like he's he's Red Hood, and I can see him in the Arkham Knight.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:39

He does the voice of Red Hood.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:41

Oh. I don't know. Where was where's I'm pretty sure where is the the only Red Hood is uh is the Arkham Knight game. I'm pretty sure on the Red Hood is a version of Joker, though, isn't he? Red Hood is I'm thinking of the Red Hood version of Robin. Well whatever am I thinking of? Or maybe Jensen is a nightwing. I can see him as well.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:05

Red Hood, Nightwing, and Robin are all iterations of the same the same um archetype. Uh Damian Wayne, like Dick Grayson. Dick Grayson, because and then there's um uh what's his name? He's got the the Batman with the devil, the horn things. He's all black with just a red bat.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:39

Beyond Batman Beyond.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:40

Batman Beyond. They're all iterations of the same not the same character, but the same archetype, like uh Robin Batman sidekick.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:49

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, Batwing.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:51

But uh Red Hood is like the the vent the more he is Red Hood is to Batman. Like he's like Robin and Batman in one person. You know what I mean? Like Yeah. I don't know if that makes sense.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:23

But kind of the same way how like because ain't Nightwing they're the first Robin, and he spun up like he he removed himself from Batman.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:33

Yeah, you got uh because Damien, Damien Wayne A couple of Wayne's one becomes Nightwing, one becomes Red Hood. No, Jason Todd. Jason Todd becomes Red Hood because he was Jason Todd was a Jason Todd was a Robin. Jason The second Robin.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:55

Jason Todd is the second Robin. Of course I had to look it up. So Red Hood, the Joker was originally a criminal known as the Red Hood before falling into a vat of chemicals that disfigured him and drove him insane. That's the original comic origin, one of them. However, the name Red Hood was later adopted by Jason Todd II Robin after he was murdered by the Joker and resurrected.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:22

That's the that's the the suit. That's the that's the suit you see in Snyder's Batman.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:28

Where it says jokes on you, Batman. Yeah. That's Robin's suit. That's Jason Todd Robin suit. Yeah, yeah. That makes sense. See, and that's another thing I'll just say I don't like about Zack Snyder. But you're why would we see that post the event? Like tell us all the like tell take us there. Give us 10 years of stuff.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:49

Because yeah, he was doing he was adopting um the armored knight. I forgot which story uh he was adopting.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:59

Well, I feel like Warner Brothers was forcing him to like Avengers just came out. You have to get to Justice League now. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like you have no choice. This is what we're paying for.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:09

Because Dark Side, Dark Side is like hands-on Thanos.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:18

You know what I mean? Like Thanos, he's gonna send the Chitari and everybody.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:24

Yeah. He's a delegator.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:25

Yeah. Dark side is like, I'm there. I got I got uh what's Buddy's name? Silver Buddy, I forgot. Uh I got this dude. That's it. It's me and him. Um yeah. I'd like to see so many iterations of people. You know what I'd like to see?

SPEAKER_00 1:13:50

You know what I would make?

SPEAKER_02 1:13:51

This is gonna be so far out of right field. You know what it would be fire of done well, a Ben 10 movie.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:00

I would have to watch Ben 10. I didn't watch that with Nico, but uh if you say so, I'm pretty sure it would be fire.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:08

Like if a Ben 10 movie was done right, yeah, bro, that would be fire. That could be like a Transformers slash uh Power Rangers, that vein.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:17

Oh, a modern Power Rangers, dark Power Rangers would be fire.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:21

I like the one with uh uh Dacri Montgomery. I like that one.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:26

I don't know why that one didn't pick up. Yeah, that one was decent.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:30

Bro, that one girl was so fine from the Power Rangers.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:33

There is no Amy Joe. There are there's only one Amy Joe Johnson. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:38

None of them compare to the original pink.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:41

Yeah, she's everybody's original crush.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:45

Her or Kelly Kapowski. People say Topanga, but she's so that's years later. She's so years later beyond the Kelly.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:55

Kelly Kapowski was hot when I was 10.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:58

Topanga was hot when I was 13 or 14. Yeah. It's like, oh, I know what full lips. I know what full lips do for you.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:05

It's like, that's good, Topanga, but I know who Cindy Crawford is.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:08

Yeah. First of all.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:11

Nothing against Topanga, she's cutie.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:13

Oh yeah. She was she was cute, but yeah, it was everybody's Kelly Kapowski. I was just watching last night the uh the dark side or dark secrets of Hollywood, and it was the um Save by the Bell episode. And everybody knows how messed up Dustin Diamond was. But apparently, apparently uh Lark Vorries, Lisa Turtle, like she they interviewed her and stuff, and she seemed weird in the way that Britney Spears is weird now. And you know what I mean? You see what you see what I'm saying? Yeah. Like like she's there, but she's not there.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:02

I don't think that's Brittany we're seeing on social media. There ain't no way. It is so wild.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:11

That conservatorship was there for a reason, and now it's apparent because either she acted that way before the conservatorship, and the conservatorship you know, just allowed her to keep being that way. She's I got money, but you know what I mean? Like or she wasn't that way and her parents or whoever was trying to control her and they drove her crazy. I don't see it, it can only be those two ways. Either you were crazy before and they they were trying to actually look out for you, or it was like nefarious, you know, to begin with. Yeah. They were trying to steal your money and then drove you crazy.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:05

So either way, she was crazy or she is crazy. She's crazy. That girl crazy. You got it. Uh but I honestly think I just feel like just her living situation, the popularity, the world, everything. Just how do you not go crazy?

SPEAKER_02 1:17:22

Right. How do you not go crazy? Like, especially.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:26

Because she was like the first of like I would say the first.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:30

Well, our generation is she was the first sex symbol.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:35

Yeah, you had Elvis Michael Madonna and all that. But Elvis, Michael, Madonna, all the 80s, early 90s people didn't have the internet and paparazzi at that level. Yeah. And walking out of any shop, car, door is just a, you know, just you're automatically online, you're automatically somewhere. Like you should live with all that in real time and learn how to navigate this new media medium that's happening.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:05

That can only be flattering and awesome the first year. Yeah. And then it has to become super annoying.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:12

Yeah. The videos I had seen where it's her people's perspective, like walking behind her, turn a corner and it's just flashing, just flashing. Like, how does that not like drive you crazy? I mean, you can't turn and go out of places without lights flashing and you can't see it, whatever.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:30

I would I just had a friggin' revelation if I was a celebrity. I would make it be known that I have epilepsy. So paparazzi flashes and stuff send me into like a seizure epileptic. So either I'm I'm gonna fake some seizures or just nip it in the bud, rather. I'm I'm epileptic. I can fake a pretty good seizure. You know? Yeah, that's crazy. It's synonymous. Like once you've made it, made it, made it. You're just your one name is that's all it takes. Brittany, Michael, Madonna, Beyonce, like Gaga. You know what I mean? Like you once you've reached the pinnacle of success, I think, or celebrity.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:30

Yeah, where they just know you. Just one night. That's all it takes.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:33

It don't matter if you have two names. What are some more? Posty. Yeah, post like Drake.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:38

Eminem.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:39

Bro, I share. I would like to just speaking of Drake, I'm gonna make a prediction. Something's gonna happen with this mug where he's gonna fall off. Like he's gonna fall from the highest of grace.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:53

I mean, I think he is falling because he just came out with three albums.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:57

Nothing he has ever done that has made me take pause. You know what I mean? Like I agree, I agree.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:07

And I s I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:10

Yeah, that's what I was gonna say. I'm not in his demographic really, but it seems to be across the board he's you he's loved like by young people, old people, it doesn't matter. Like he's transcends. That celebrity status you was talking about. Transcends the generations. I don't get it. There's I I couldn't tell you one lyric of a Drake song other than that uh Does She Love Me? Uh where they were jumping out of the cars. That's the only song I think I really started from the bottom, now we hear it.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:54

Oh, yeah, that's right.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:55

Yeah, that's it. Two then.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:57

Kiki, do you love me? And we started from the bottom now we're here.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:00

I don't know how many songs he's got released, maybe 500. Probably. Maybe. I like three. That's not a good ratio to me.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:08

I mean, I don't know. I'm not uh I don't know. I was just you really have to just captivate me now to pull me into to your problem is we universe.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:24

We grew up with Eminem doing all this lyrical acrobat stuff that now all this other stuff ain't impressive anymore. Even he's not impressive anymore because he's done his tricks. It's like I don't know what you can do.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:37

We're not even impressed no more. We're used to it. Yeah, I mean Yeah, I think I think that's you you either what's that old saying? You either uh live long enough to see yourself become the villain, or what you either die a hero or live life.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:58

Live long enough to see yourself become the villain. Bring it back to Batman. Yeah, full circle. Uh so but now that we're on Batman, I gotta talk about this because this is what I'm playing. This video game I'm playing. Oh, no, Lego. Lego Batman?

SPEAKER_02 1:22:10

Oh yeah. I called Jet the other day. I was like, hey, bud, you ready to you ready to come to the house? He was like, No, not yet. I said, Why? He said, Me and Cameron's playing the new Lego Batman.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:20

He's like, I'll see you next week in Bridge.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:23

I said, I said, call me when you're done.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:25

Yeah, yeah, it's fire. It's literally simplified Arkham Night. That's all it is. Nice. It's fun. It's simplified, it's kitty, but all the Lego, you know what you're getting into and you start a Lego game, they're fun.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:38

I I bought a Wii. I bought a Wii specifically for um like one of the Lego games, one of the Lego hero games that only come out for the Wii when it first came out. It eventually came out for other platforms, but it came out just for the Wii.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:00

It was like Batman 2? Or the one there was one of the Batmans where it's all Gotham, but you could you were like Batman Flash, Superman everybody. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:08

It was that one.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:09

And then I know three came out. Three was just dumb hard for some reason. It just made it way too hard and complicated.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:17

It was hard playing on that dang Wii where you're Oh, I bet. Because you were you could either You could play with one controller.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:26

Yeah, two sideways.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:27

Yeah, or you could play with two, and I eventually just got one of those.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:31

You bought the pro controller.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:33

I got one of those long ones that it would stick in long ways, and it was like a play stake PlayStation controller, but it was like eight inches long. Oh, okay. There was no there wasn't a pro can uh controller back then. There wasn't, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:48

I had one for the for the Wii. There is the Wii it plugs into the Wii moat. It was uh plugged into the end and then it was a controller.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:56

I think I might have got it when Punch Out came out.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:59

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:00

So I could play Punch Out easier.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:03

Nice. All right. Oh, we've been going for about 80 something minutes. For real, it's 222. I gotta pee. All right. Well, we can call it on that one. All right then. This was a good one.

unknown 1:24:14

All right.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:14

All right, folks, stay living in the acne. And we will see you next time. Love ya.